SOAP ON A ROPE wrote:Yes, he has finally found that the best way to pick up the slippery soap is to squat, not bend over to pick it up.
If O'Bree continues in that career best form The Most Esteemed Brotherhood of the Soap may well offer him membership of our august body.
The Forgotten Magpie.
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Posts: 573 1-Jul-2009 02:44:19 |
O'Bree has been good for a long while. Not perfect, but does the hard things and holds the midfield together quite often.
Massive umpire sledger , which doesn't get him any favours. |
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Posts: 821 1-Jul-2009 11:55:43 LSD Denizen |
I've always had a soft spot for OB coz he did most of the hard work and never got much [ ? any ] kudos. Unlike a few others.
Other clubs worked out years ago when we were flying OB had to be tagged. Having said that, he probably sums up why we havent won a flag. Here is a 200 game absolute first picked regular midfielder who wouldnt have had too much interest if traded and would hardly be on any Collingwood top players list over the past 25 years. Pace and skills as already discussed. Still , will be crucial as The Extractor if a likely wet, windy Friday night arrives. |
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macedonianmarvel35 |
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Posts: 433 1-Jul-2009 13:40:23 |
spoons his kicks but will get it 'almost' there most times. pace is good enough for an in-under player. and has a wrong side under pressure. not the
best or worst. can see him playing close to 300.
as others have said, bank him for 6 clearances/tackles per game. epitome of a soldier. lethal comments were correct. remember him saying that ob was the 'go home' player that really hurt. would have made a difference in their grand slam tilt. |
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Posts: 298 1-Jul-2009 13:45:38 |
9 clearances on the weekend. Probably our best clearance player.
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Posts: 4404 1-Jul-2009 13:57:57 |
People seriously do not realise what value we get from his in close clearance work.
The Brions devised a whole strategy to deal with the Bucks/Burns/Obee/Licca in close stoppage work - get the ruckman to belt it well clear of the contest. We were murdering teams at the stoppages in 2002/03 and despite his critics, Obee was a big part of that. He is STILL our best in close midfield extractor. Watch the stoppages carefully next time - you will be surprised how often he gets the first dibs off the ruckmans hands. 22-25 Obee possessions are the equivelant to many other guys 30+ efforts. You cannot undervalue a first possession midfielders value to the combination. His other weaknesses have been well documented, but his clearance work is first class. The Dude |
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Posts: 1259 1-Jul-2009 14:28:59 |
I remember him and Burns being specialists at roving to the opposition ruck to a point where they were much less effective at getting their hands on a
"friendly" hit out. IMHO, Burns was the best at it. Most people seem to value looking good over the actual action. I think O'Bree had a very high
goal assist count last season ( I think he was in the top ten league wide ) and also think that he gets a rough deal from the umpires. His high clanger count
is caused by the free kicks against rather than actually turning the ball over with a disposal. Also, how many times did the opposition get away with nearly
taking his head off. Sometime last season, he got collected high and fell to the ground dizzy and got pinned for holding the ball. And he just gets up and goes
on with it. You need his kind to balance the relatively small bodied rest of the midfield.
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Posts: 237 1-Jul-2009 17:06:04 |
Getting it and disposing of it effectively are part and parcel. So he may get the clearance stat but I will bet that he has as many clangers to match.
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Posts: 434 1-Jul-2009 17:27:09 |
dewd, after a night on the turps one of the lions fab4 told me that bucks was the best stoppage player he had ever seen, especialy his ability to control the
actual contest with his setup. lethals gameplan for bucks was a 2on1 negative press (infront&behind) which then evolved into that 'forward
momentum' play which you stated.
its totally off topic but i thought youd like to know. |
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cooldewd |
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Posts: 4410 1-Jul-2009 19:51:48 |
Wearmouth wrote:He mostly handballs in close for his stoppage work bratko. Kicking doesn't come into it for his bread and butter possessions. Generally kicks it when he is running in space. the Dude |
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manassas run |
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Posts: 85 1-Jul-2009 22:00:55 |
Who's gunna dig it out when he's gorn?
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 lost cause |
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Posts: 783 1-Jul-2009 22:23:17 |
manassas run wrote:that fearless lionheart lockyer or buy a BIG SHOVEL. |
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Wearmouth |
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Posts: 238 1-Jul-2009 23:55:40 |
Who's gunna dig it out when he's gorn?
Give me a break. Who replaced Bucks? Who replaced Burns?Who replaced Jimmy Players will step up in there absence? As we have seen. And if they don't you restructure game plan or you recruit to fill their absence. I have no problem with Obree being considered as a good ordinary player. And thats all. I don't think I need to say anymore. He is what he is. |
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santo |
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Posts: 532 2-Jul-2009 01:01:34 |
manassas run wrote: Beams, J-Mac and Sidebottom will more than replace O'Bree in the next couple of years. |
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cooldewd |
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Posts: 4411 2-Jul-2009 12:16:09 |
santo wrote: J-Mac's gotta get onto the park first. He has played less than Rusling this year. Think about that for a while before you go proclaiming him as the saviour. |
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Posts: 533 2-Jul-2009 13:42:58 |
Where did I say he would be the savior. These three guys need to replace O"BREE. I think what you need to think about is jus how good O'bree is. He
aint no Chris Judd.
J-Mac when he gets fit will be good. I am rarely wrong and won't be on this occasion. |
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Posts: 4412 2-Jul-2009 18:11:32 |
santo wrote: Duuuuhhhhh!!! Not only myself, but others on this site last year were proclaiming jmac as a keeper. We were all excited by his ability to kick long flat drop punts. So you are only a year too late on youir proclaimation The Dude P.S. IMHO I think he will end up an outside wing man type midfielder rather than as an inside ball winner. |
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manassas run |
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Posts: 87 2-Jul-2009 23:04:08 |
For the record Ronnie, I can see OB's weaknesses as clearly as anyone else - it's what he's good at that's under rated. At least he can dig it
out ... some of the more "skillful" players he's feeding it out to ain't that bad at turning it over.
And I'm not exactly sure who the players are that you're referring to that have stepped up to match the Bucks/Burns/Jimmy level? I don't know that anyone is at their equal in their respective positions (yet). As for Bucks, we might not see a footballer at C'wood as complete as Buckley for years - they don't come along that often. |
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