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manassas run		#101	[url]	[-]
Posts: 53 22-Jun-2009 21:26:31	"falling off" =12 + zip at the moment. "couple of losses" (they've had none yet) over "next couple of months" (ie 8 matches) = (if you're right) 18 + 2 after 20. So what? Is that meant to make us feel good? Yep we do a good line in gutsy wins. And yep Neon and Dids have the tools to do some special stuff. But I'd love to see a big guy in a C'wood jumper dominate around the clearances week in week out. I've been waiting for a LONG time, And at least one key fwd that scares the shit out of quality defenders when the ball is banged in. Win the next 4, though, and I might start singing a different tune. Gutsy wins against mediocrities don't do it for me anymore.
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santo		#102	[url]	[-]
Posts: 466 22-Jun-2009 21:32:31	I would like a big guy dominating the clearances too. We have kids in McCarthy, Beams and Sidebottom will be doing very well in a few years. The midfield has its weaknesses and could be better but it is one of the better midfields going around. Pendles, Swan, Davis and now Didak joining them. They are four guns theirs no debating that. With McCarthy, Beams and Sidebottom getting better and better not to mention exciting youngsters that we recruit in the future years means we have an exciting future to look forward too. :thumbsu:
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cooldewd		#103	[url]	[-]
Posts: 4375 22-Jun-2009 23:40:04	McCarthy getting better and better? On what exposed form? He hasn't played a full game since last years finals loss to StKilda. I have no doubt if he gets his body right he can become a handy player - but injury has cut him down in a Rusling type manner at the moment. The Dude
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whatittakes	uh ha	#104	[url]	[-]
Posts: 2576 22-Jun-2009 23:53:05	Talking specifically about you Santo. I am glad you don't rate my opinion. As I don't need your approval. The fact that you don't, tells me I'm in the ball park. Unlike you. Also, where credibility is concerned on this site, you have as much as Josh does in the Ruck. Many fellow posters who I have met at several Collingwood functions know where I am at. It isn't in the "been banned before" category either. Loved the way you went under ground for a couple of days when you were exposed a few days ago. Going as well as Caro you are.
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santo		#105	[url]	[-]
Posts: 467 22-Jun-2009 23:57:52	I had two exams on those days you ninconpoop.
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whatittakes	.....	#106	[url]	[-]
Posts: 2577 23-Jun-2009 00:01:14	Keep studying.
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PalmoliveGold		#107	[url]	[-]
Posts: 453 23-Jun-2009 00:38:58	santo wrote: I had two exams on those days you ninconpoop. Seeing as the word is nincompoop not nincompoop (sic), hopefully you lifted to pass your finger painting exams.
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beheard		#108	[url]	[-]
Posts: 812 23-Jun-2009 10:53:11 LSD Denizen	Here we go again . I must do this every year. Let's get the Tuckey thing straight AGAIN for those who dont know or seem to remember correctly. There was no " Tuckey is the future " line. I had no high hopes for him but he had more ability than some others. My whole point was if you are going to get rid of him, fine. Just do it. The farce was playing him for ONE quarter at full forward as a make or break test and never playing him again. And this is still relevant as the club tries to sort out which/all of the young key forwards arent going to make it. Is anybody seriously suggesting that , let's say Dawes, should play a quarter in the forward line as the final test as to whether you keep him or not? If you have played a player enough times you should have made your decision already. C3 better hope he doesnt get put in that position.
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santo	Too many cheap Beheards, any new Tunes?	#109	[url]	[-]
Posts: 470 23-Jun-2009 11:15:48	Beheard why do you care so much that you have made some appaling calls. You talk down nearly every player with the exception of Tuckey and Cole. So what if your not the best judge of talent you are a doc and hold a degree in economics isn't that enough?
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beheard		#110	[url]	[-]
Posts: 813 23-Jun-2009 11:36:19 LSD Denizen	Santo , dont worry, I didnt like Cole either. Watched him for an entire game at Willy and couldn't work out what he would be except maybe a back flanker. Not fast or super clever. Either way not to a great return for an early pick.
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manassas run		#111	[url]	[-]
Posts: 55 23-Jun-2009 11:44:25	.... and this is the broad point - questionable list management, selection and drafting. .. and mediocrities in the twos touted as future champions. Happens all the time. Footballers who cant kick and without stickies are heralded as new messiahs up forward. Unless we solve it. It'll be more top 4 but no cherry. But that seems enough for some
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macedonianmarvel35		#112	[url]	[-]
Posts: 411 23-Jun-2009 12:24:32	i seem to recall the, 'tuckey should be persisted with coz he's the future' line. which brought about hours upon hours of banter... bh never rated cole, he went harder at him than the willy shaw bouys. n.brown is currently our best key forward prospect, he's been given a quarter at varying times and has produced at least 1 goal every time. kid can play.
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santo		#113	[url]	[-]
Posts: 471 23-Jun-2009 14:04:19	Beheard after a Willy game initially never made judgement on Cole. He made a point that he didn't mention him and claimed that he had all the tools along those lines. BH given any kid a rap is obviously a big thumbs up, as we all know he is negative to the point where he only bothers to comment on something he doesn't like. Myself I like his style, and think he is a good judge... But are there too many other cheap Beheards if you know what I mean?
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jmac		#114	[url]	[-]
Posts: 27 23-Jun-2009 14:25:53	manassas run wrote: .... and this is the broad point - questionable list management, selection and drafting. .. and mediocrities in the twos touted as future champions. Happens all the time. Footballers who cant kick and without stickies are heralded as new messiahs up forward. Unless we solve it. It'll be more top 4 but no cherry. But that seems enough for some In regard to top 4 when was the last time the club finished in the top 4 at the end of the home and away season? (2003) The only real chance of winning a flag is to finish in the top 4 after 22 rounds. For me thats the key to winning a Premiership.Sustained top 4 finishes at the end at the H & A season give you the only chance of a genuine chance to win one. Under mm for whatever reason we have not done this.
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manassas run		#115	[url]	[-]
Posts: 56 23-Jun-2009 14:39:14	But you've still got be good enough. And we aren't. Who cares if we finish 4th by winning ,say, 14 and losing 8 if you end up falling short. It's just more hope followed by misery. Putting everything else about 03 aside (Rocca out, beating the Lions in the finals etc) is there anyone who would argue that player for player we were a superior team to Brisbane? Almost always that's what it takes to win grannies.
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jmac		#116	[url]	[-]
Posts: 28 23-Jun-2009 14:58:49	mr, i agree with you mate. alot of people think we are better than we really are. we havent got the list to match the cats saints and dogs at the moment
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macedonianmarvel35		#117	[url]	[-]
Posts: 412 23-Jun-2009 16:00:58	i think were better than we really are... bit of a romantic some might say. wheels definately turned. question is how much. just on 'cheap beheards', about 10 posters on this site are must reads, everything else is just filler... historians are great but unless you experienced it youre missing the vibe. maybe nameagame can cache some threads for ya.
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PungentStench		#118	[url]	[-]
Posts: 65 23-Jun-2009 16:23:41	It's very easy to pull out a line from a decade ago to 'prove' a point. The Tuckey comment was by a poster who had the balls to put his opinion on the line publically, and not declare everyone on the list a champion or a dud. His call on Josh was very early and spot on, not to mention a series of others. I declared it invalide at the time but 80 % correct is pretty much spot on. Dids is a bit better than back pocket also, but his deficiencies mentioned still remain
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Tarzann		#119	[url]	[-]
Posts: 9293 23-Jun-2009 17:15:55	"who had the balls to put his opinion on the line publically" caling a player a dud/underwehlming is hardly a big call - most players are / will be, and you can always hide behind, well he's not the best. Calling a player to be a gun is the hard bit. If he called Dids a BP then he was taking x-rays without the lead vest again. Dids killed them at U18 level and was always clearly going to be a very good footballer.
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beheard		#120	[url]	[-]
Posts: 814 23-Jun-2009 17:44:49 LSD Denizen	Might jump back in here. Nothin easy about calling Josh, Taz , C3 early WELL against common belief. Dids is still not a star forward or elite midfielder . Ok, I was a bit grumpy that BP day but my point is he wont get 33 possies or 6 goals in late September and was good trade bait.
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